A: I started grading some papers, and then I watched ER when it came
Twelve years later their appeal was heard by the Kansas. Q: All right. recall exact words. Q: Were there any physical threats made to Brad at that time? us.". He was tired of relaying information, so he handed me the
Q: Was there any discussion between you, Jason, and Brad at the time
Q: And what if any reply did you hear from Brad? Q: Approximately how long would Brad have been out in that area? the home at that rime? Q: And did it also occur that an ambulance came and transported you
Q: When you say the fat one, start there, in terms of the person that
He came over, and he opened the closet door, and he pointed the gun at
together. me if I had ever been with a black man before, and I said no. they were he was walking around trying to find the keys with them. I've sat silently for more than 12 years, but I'm now breaking. pulled up next to it. Were you able to judge? A: We were kneeling with our backs to the car. The Wichita Massacre - A Shameless Media Coverup 10-19-2 Welcome to American Dissident Voices. goes from one color to the next color like a regular yarn that the colors
Q: Would that be Aaron Sanders, is that correct? Q: So you could see a weapon, is that right? Q: Did you observe where the two intruders were at that time? them. in Jason's room? A: I believe Jason and Aaron and I were still in the closet, and very
Q: And would there have been any other cars in the garage at that time? He didn't want to do that. "Don't tell me I have to get up and turn the lights off again.". out of the room, what did you do? that time, is that right? A: At on point when Aaron was in the hallway, they told him he had until
A: I sat in the truck for a few minutes while the other guy got out. A: When we started going to the ATMs, the same one always left while
Q: And did you have an opportunity at all to observe him when you were
We didn't have any, so
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that time? Q: Did you have any trouble negotiating with the vehicle with the weather
As he exited a convenience store, the brothers held him at gunpoint, forced him into his car and ordered him to drive to an ATM where he withdrew money. A: I believe she stayed there once. Q: And where did you normally keep your checkbook? would be appreciated. I don't
there in the home? A: Yes. I believe he's the taller of the two. hallway area? didn't get knocked out, you saw stars, saw gray? Wichita massacre holly glover schreiber The Wichita Massacre, also known as the Wichita Horror, was a spree of random robberies, assaults, rapes, and murders perpetrated from December 7 to 14, 2000 by brothers Reginald and Jonathan Carr against several people in the city of Wichita, Kansas. Q: Was that what one of these individuals called you? When news of the brothers' arrest was broadcast locally, Andrew Schreiber recognized them as the men who'd kidnapped him a week earlier and contacted the police. He said he had like three or four hundred, then
big screen TV, 52-inch, that belonged to Brad Heyka, is that correct? what happened then? of us in the trunk of the car, realized it wasn't going to fit, and Heather
the other was doing other things? Q: Were they were they where were you seated or where were you
Would this be the bathroom
in front of you. She then looked around and saw Christmas lights in the distance. whiskey." that correct? Q: How were you aware they wanted you to come out of that room? said FUBU. I don't remember
at that time? about them in terms of a description? Q: Did anyone talk at that time in the closet? I looked
A: No. cute and we probably would have hit it off. actually physically planted at the time you're watching ER and grading
A: I ran southwest. Q: And where were you? A: Brad Heyka and Aaron Sander also lived there. Q: How did she appear to you at that time? A: Birchwood is to the north, 127th street is to the east. I don't remember what he was wearing. Q: Would it be more callously put than that? He shut the closet doors. A: We were asked or directed to come out into the wet bar area. what information you could regarding those people, is that correct? way it was going? They were sentenced in 2002. Heather looked at me. Q: So would this have been an area that was not in the total view of
He had always been an outdoors type so his job as assistant baseball coach at Newman University in Wichita Kansas, suited him perfectly. A: I could only distinguish Aaron's voice, so I'm assuming it was Heather. came into contact with the vehicle? Q: Were your eyes able to adjust to the darkness in that room? A: While he was unzipping his pants, I looked down between my legs,
did you just proceed there? A: Later on in the night, in the bathroom when I opened the door. Q: Once you were in Jason's room, were there any demands that were made
me. At about 11 p.m. on the freezing cold night of December 14, 2000, Reginald Carr, 23, and Jonathan Carr, 20, invaded the home of three young Wichita men, who had two female guests. where she and Aaron might have been located? coming up on the bank. A: He coached JV basketball, and then he had freshman basketball practice. papers and Brad is somewhere downstairs somewhere along the line then comes
Q: I'm sorry. A: When we walked in, he was kind of hiding behind the wall until the
He had blood coming out of
They were already out in the garage. Q: Now, the room that we're speaking of, Jason's bedroom, the closet
A: He kind of just waved at the driver's side door. My Mom gave him the tin, so I was familiar with it. Q: And the one individual that was in essence guarding you, would this
see anybody running. Q: Did there come a point later when you were able to get a better estimate
Q: And do you recall what you did at the residence once you got there? was in the house. A: Yes. A: No. who stayed in that room? for Heather? the lights of that vehicle? let me, so I withdrew another 150. A: We slid out of the driveway because it was icy and snowy. Q: Do you have an idea from what you felt as to what had happened? A: It was right after the gunshots, right after it didn't take very
what officers were in the house and if I talked to them. time? There was like a big jug of money, like one of those big milk jugs full
Q: And were you in that vehicle at the time the light was on? I tied it around his head to try and stop it. was the fat one or the skinny one? other lighting that you could illuminate your residence with, is that right? Q: And was there any further discussion on the way to that location? Q: And you've indicated there was a taller one of the two, is that right? Q: And had they voluntarily gotten on the floor were they put there? They beat the men and raped the women. And then I heard -- there was
A: He was just stockier than the other person. I am one of two surviving victims of the Carr brothers' December 2000 murderous crime spree in Wichita. A: He said something that scared me, and I kind of jerked, and he told
Q: A big screen is a fairly large television? Q: Was there any illumination in that home other than front porch? did you have an opportunity to know where Heather and Aaron were at that
area? No objection on behalf of Reginald Carr, Your Honor. I rolled him
A: No, I can remember hoping that it didn't go over my head, but I don't
he was sexually assaulting Heather? Don't let him
The guys were put into the trunk of the car. middle of the closet, which weren't able to be closed. Q: Was there any statements or indication by him that you were not to
Q: Do you know whether or not he had any leather apparel on his hands? The skinnier of the two
sweater and some jeans. Q: When you said he was not able to get an erection, was he still able
Q: During this time of these sexual incidents including the gentlemen
Q: Had you seen her when you arrived back from the ATM? Q: Do you recall if he ejaculated internally into your vagina? And I said "Well, I'm not really having a good time. We were they just told us to do
That said, we're in two minds about publishing the story and wanted to ask your thoughts. Q: When you described the jeans, was there anything significant that
me again. A: Jason had an alarm clock that stayed lit. In the cold, pre-dawn hours of December 15, 2000, police deputy Matthew Lynch looked down at the snow in a lonely soccer field in Wichita, Kansas. Q: Is there some reason Jason was assigned the task of going around
of entry doors to get into it? Q: Were you called that name on more than one occasion during that evening? home? to the weapons that they had and what action they might take? A: Jason and I were on the bed, Aaron was at the foot of the bed. Q: When everyone was undressed, were they totally undressed? And when you then left the residence, you were
Q: And would that have been towards the north first? I'm Kevin Alfred Strom. Q: At any time prior to the leaving for the ATM did either of them leave
A: Only about a foot deep but about probably 6 feet wide. I'm not going to have
black coats. but still in proximity to it, is that correct? A: They participated. Q: When everyone was in the room, all the members of the home and their
Q: You said on the evening of December 14 that you went to that location
The snow was pink, and spotted with red. A: It was one of those also mid thigh, not cropped, not long leather
And there was a man and a woman who answered the door. your friends? he was wearing? A: I said "Yeah, me too" and he said "What the fuck does that mean?" in time? I thought it was a subdivision that was starting
When you refer to Nikki, we know that is the terrier Schnauzer
to ask you if you can help me understand you better. individuals? THE COURT: Of course. where you pulled off, did you notice whether or not it was populated with
A: He was instructed to have intercourse with Heather. you saw this gentleman? A: I don't remember exact words besides the telling him he had to do
it for all purposes or did it automatically relock after you got in the
A: One of them is. if you will, please. at that time? were turned down in the living room area? any houses? was it at that point that Brad left with the individual you described as
I didn't want them to shoot
A: He didn't ejaculate internally. anybody stand until she identifies them first. without an actual erection. A: I asked him where we were going. area, is that right? Q: 52-inch. was not yet there, is that correct? and we were forced to have intercourse. A: I remember lying there. there wasn't a table. please"
described it to us as maybe a foot wide, maybe 6 foot high. I saw the skinny guy raping Heather vaginally. He made sure that the doors were locked,
A: I got out. been discussing, from 11:00 to approximately the midnight hour, in all
law enforcement officers came to the scene? Heather was no longer
A: I put on a sweatshirt, a white sweatshirt, and that's it. can, is that right? the car. like he was taking off a condom, and he flushed the toilet. was on the floor closest to the foot of the bed, and Brad was on the floor. Q: Do you recall how Aaron was dressed when he was thrown on the bed
in first and kind of pulled in front of the median, and Jan's truck was
Did you A: There were three or four cars that were traveling north on Greenwich,
guests were in the room, was there any light that allowed you to see what
Q: And each individual then turned, reported approximately how much
A: He ripped the covers off the bed, and I don't remember what he said. Q: When you fell to the ground, did you have any conscious recollection
It was only about 10 minutes after Jason
The practitioner's primary taxonomy code is 363A00000X with license number PA08301 (TX). to be a phone or anywhere to get help there. Q: Was he able to penetrate your vaginal area with his penis? move but I turned my head to see where it had gone, and it was pulling
If it's a
And I said "You know,
Q: Was anyone resistive to the demand that they made? Q: So when you were listening to this conversation, was there anything
Q: And he would have been behind you, is that correct? leave the vehicle? said 'Hold on, I'm not done." Q: Was it at this point when you felt pressure being put on you being
Q: Thank you. Q: And so when you describe you and Heather being placed in the trunk,
The Carr brothers entered Befort's bedroom brandishing guns with Sander in tow. No. Q: And you were then in the passenger side of the truck? Q: Do you see those people in the courtroom today? the return trip? MS. Foulston: Yes, Your Honor it would be. about both you and Heather had been in Aaron's vehicle facing in the westerly
When the two men, eventually identified as Reginald and Jonathan Carr, were arrested, Jonathan had the diamond ring intended for HG in his pocket. as the jewelry? 19 excuse me, of the year 2000, do you recall your activities in the
night. Q: And so the time placement that you recollected was approximately
A: I was called it a couple different times. those individuals stood? builds of those two individuals? what led you to believe it was FUBU? things out, so to speak, in the house while you all are in the room? he wished we would have met under different circumstances because I was
in the area of the wet bar area, and the bathroom door was closed. any. she had a couple of hundred, and Brad, and he said he had about 1500. Q: Do you know what the streets are that would border this particular
both of the intruders were in that area? Q: Did these gunshots appear to be succession with Heather receiving
Q: And did you continue to know that that person had a weapon? me if I liked it. A: Throughout finding the keys there were comments like "somebody better
Q; And is there a stationary lighting or ceiling lighting in that room? And that was it. clothes off"? THE COURT: I'm sorry. went out? him if he was going to shoot us, and he said no. The closet light was on. where you had driven from, approximate location? vehicle and and on to the hospital? parked, and it went in front of me. A: Yeah. Q: You told us the names of individuals who were at the residence. the first? do it with his girl.". observed? that you were giving them the right information? Can you tell us
Q: Had you seen Jason prior to going to bed to observe whether he had
Q: And we had some discussion about your Schnauzer dog named Nikki,
where she might have been? Q: Were there any comments or activities directed towards Brad as a
Q: Once Heather had been removed from the room, were you able to determine
A: Yeah. A: Not a specific time frame. that knowledge at that time? Q: Do recall whether or not there was a doorbell that you heard. Q: Would that be the first time when they brought Brad back up? Q:When you speak about digital penetration can you tell me who performed
Q: And when you got to the front door, was the porch light still on
were on the roads and the air? A: He's the one that I called the skinny one, only his hair hair is
How were you directed to begin performing these acts of
looking at, or what clock might have been in the immediate area? photograph. Q: And what part of his body penetrated into what part of your body? She asked me "I wonder how long they can last in
They would wave their guns and tell us we better
I know the difference between the ones that has the round
and then the gun went off again. Q: Approximately how long a period of time did you spend at that ATM
A: I don't recall. in the vehicle at that time? inches taller than I am. white like stars. of voice? You know, you can
During the time that we've
Q: And at the time that you were in the vehicle, was there any discussion
Thanks to her detailed description of the perpetrators, a news broadcast was issued immediately, and one day later neighbors at a nearby apartment building reported two men that matched the suspects' description hauling a big screen TV (taken from Jason Befort's home) up the stairs. that only took four of five seconds. And I kind of flipped out because
Q: And the other one had left with Brad, is that right? be the taller or the shorter of the two? And then I just got up,
Its so easy to find her now, just type HG Wichita Q: And do you recall once they had left the residence where everyone
me "Relax" he wasn't going to shoot me yet. THE COURT: Ms. Foulston, would this be an appropriate time to break
And he said yeah. and shutting off the lights? I think this is the very practice
And at this time there were the five
On December 8, 2000, having recently arrived in Wichita, they robbed Andrew Schreiber, a 23-year-old assistant baseball coach. Q: And during this time did you have any thought with regard to that
you can have whatever you want. Q: When you came out of the closet and into the bedroom area, did you
and then there were three more gunshots before I felt the gunshot that
get ready to go, and Aaron said "No, I'll go." Q: And did you were you still in the car with Heather at the time
I was taken Heather sat closest
A: I believe it was the fatter of the two. A: I believe the doors were closed. Q: This would have been sometime after 2:07, correct? information was given, the money information was given, do you recall next
Q: Do you know whether or not at that time you heard anything that sounded
Q: And what did you hear, if anything, at that time? you distinguish them as fat and skinny? THE COURT: Excuse me just a moment, Ms. Foulston. Q: So the person inside the room with Heather was the, what you've described
A: I walked in front of him over to the bathroom. Q: And did you notice any shirt or was it just the sweater that you
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Q: Were you able to identify or see him clearly in the bathroom while
Q: And then you said at some point in time there was a suggestion of
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Q: At that time, you would have been driving westbound on 21st, is that
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